The Chess Mind

By Dennis Monokroussos.
This is a blog for chess fans by a chess fan, one who loves the beauty of the game and wants to share it with those who are like-minded.
Yet the chess mind is not only a chess mind, and other topics, such as philosophy, may appear from time to time. All material copyrighted.
James West and the Philidor Counter-Gambit: A Follow-Up
New Jersey master James West is a long-time fan of the Philidor Counter-Gambit (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 f5), and in this recent post I wondered what he had in mind against the important line 4.Nc3 fxe4 5.Nxe4 d5 6.Neg5. Happily, West himself has written in to share his answer, or at least where it can be found: on his blog, in this post in particular.

His answer, in short, is 6...exd4 7.Nxd4 Qe7+, which looks like a safer approach than 6...h6 or 6...e4. But is it a panacea? I don't think so. Have a look here, where I recap my earlier analysis of 6...exd4 and add some more. My conclusion is that White is clearly better, and moreover in positions where Black isn't having any fun.
Posted by Dennis Monokroussos on Friday April 6, 2007 at 5:56pm
Alejandro Melchor (mail):
Hmm ...I am reading with great intherest your "polemics" with my friend Jim West. Well I am not PCG player ( if not a Latvian gambit fan !! - you know, often it trasposes ), but I promise I will analyze carefully all this whole variation. As a curiosity, ten years ago I saw the following game in my chess club between two Expert class players: 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 f5 4.Nc3 fxe4 5.Nxe4 d5 6.Neg5 e4 7.Ne5 Nh6 8.Nxe4! dxe4 9.Bxh6 Qf6 ( a bit better 9..Be6 ) 10.Be3 ( or 10.Qh5+ h6 11.Qg5 white adv. )10. ..Bd6 11.Bc4 etc. 1-0, 28 ( G.Leon-C.Bieg, Barcelona UGA op,1997 ), I myself commented the game for both players.
Otherwise, all this discussion is "unproductive", move 5..d5?! is dubtious, it is known 5..exd4 and specially 5..Cf6! are the correct ones !!, see http://www.chessexchange.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1780 answer with my alias "loco" ( Mad, in Spanish ).
Best, Alejandro Melchor, Barcelona, Spain
4.7.2007 8:36pm
Alejandro Melchor (mail):
More ..
Perhaps it's some uneven, but in their writtings West quotes another line after 7.Nxd4: 7..Nf6 8.Be2 (8.Qe2+ Qe7 9.Bf4 Kd7 unclear ..but of course, to me 9..Kd7 is an atrocity !!) 8..Nc6 9.Bb5 Qd6 10.0-0 Be7 11.Re1 Ng4 12.Ngf3 0-0 13.Bxc6 bxc6 14.h3 Nxf2 15.Kxf2 Bh4+ 16.Rg1 Bxe1 17.Qxe1 c5 with compensation. No doubt, the variation can be ameliorated ...
Alejandro Melchor.
4.7.2007 10:05pm
Dennis Monokroussos:
Thanks for the comments. I agree that 5...Nf6 is best, and I think White is only a little better there.

As for the second comment, both lines admit of improvement. After 5...d5 6.Neg5 cxd4 7.Nxd4 Nf6, we have

(1) 8.Qe2+ Qe7 9.Bf4 Kd7 (Calling this an "atrocity" is an overstatement. It's not best, but it's not much worse than any other move, and Black is clearly worse in all lines. For example, if 9...h6, then 10.Nge6 Na6 11.Nxf8 Rxf8 12.Qxe7+ Kxe7 13.Bxa6 Ne8 14.Bg3 bxa6 15.O-O-O +/-, or 9...c6 10.O-O-O Qxe2 11.Bxe2 +/-.) and now simply 10.O-O-O Qxe2 11.Bxe2 is clearly better for White.

(2) 8.Be2 Nc6 9.Bb5 Qd6 10.O-O Be7 11.Re1 Ng4 and now the rather direct 12.Bxc6+ bxc6 13.f4 looks clearly better for White.
4.8.2007 5:42pm