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By Dennis Monokroussos.
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Short - Cheparinov: How to win quickly in chess

Here's the trick: Insult your future opponents or those they are associated with. That way, when it's time to shake hands at the start of the game, they'll refuse and be forfeited, at least in FIDE events. That's what happened in today's (non-) game between Nigel Short and Ivan Cheparinov. Much more on the matter here, for those who are interested, but I'll reproduce the relevant FIDE rule here:

Any player who does not shake hands with the opponent (or greets the opponent in a normal social manner in accordance with the conventional rules of their society) before the game starts in a FIDE tournament or during a FIDE match (and does not do it after being asked to do so by the arbiter) or deliberately insults his/her opponent or the officials of the event, will immediately and finally lose the relevant game.

What do you think, readers? Is this the dumbest rule ever, an attempt to mandate hypocritical acts of respect for even the most vile opponent? (I mean this as a general point, not a remark about Short in particular.) Or is this a reasonable attempt to put the game above personal disputes and nationalistic squabbles?

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Posted by Dennis Monokroussos on Sunday January 20, 2008 at 12:04pm
Bernard (mail):
The arbiter erred in applying the rule (or recommendation - if that is what it is). The clause "and does not do it after being asked to do so by the arbiter" is decisive - Cheparinov apparently was willing to do so after being asked by the arbiter. After that, Short had no right to insist on the point. The rule seems reasonable to me.
1.20.2008 12:30pm
Russian Gambit (mail):

Is this the dumbest rule ever, an attempt to mandate hypocritical acts of respect for even the most vile opponent? (I mean this as a general point, not a remark about Short in particular.) Or is this a reasonable attempt to put the game above personal disputes and nationalistic squabbles?


Neither. It is a way to make sure off-board squabbles remain off-board. The rule - and its strict observance - sends a strong message to players that when they come to a chess tournament, they better check their disagreements at the door. Chess is more important than their little egos. I support this rule and its strict application. I don't think the rule forces people to "shake hands" because it requires the players to greet the other in a fashion that is customary in the player's society.

If Cheparinov really wanted to get back at Short, he should have given Short a nice Russian bear hug and followed it up with a kiss on his cheek. I would have loved to see an stuck-up Englishman deal with the resulting emotional trauma during the game.
1.20.2008 12:32pm
Dennis Monokroussos:
Bernard: You (and Cheparinov) seem to be right.

Russian Gambit: I don't understand your "Neither". How does your answer differ from my second option, that the rule is "a reasonable attempt to put the game above personal disputes"?
1.20.2008 12:39pm
kevin:
the willing to after told by the arbiter doesnt apply, by refusing shorts offer twice, also since it was clearly a planned insult then no arbiter warning is needed. planned insults can be given a loss without arbiter warning.

Short must be thanking those "dunderheads" like Dainalov(sp)for putting this rule into effect. Even better is Kramnik being on the appeals committee.

In any case Cheparinov really hurt his chess with this, i doubt the people at corus will be itnerested in bringing him back any time soon.
1.20.2008 12:42pm
Bernard (mail):
Of course it's important to formulate the rule carefully. Consider the clause: "(or greets the opponent in a normal social manner ...)". It should be 'greet', not 'greets', so that the parenthetical content will lie within the scope of the earlier 'not'. As a result of just one 's', it literally means the opposite of what was intended!
1.20.2008 12:45pm
Russian Gambit (mail):

Russian Gambit: I don't understand your "Neither". How does your answer differ from my second option, that the rule is "a reasonable attempt to put the game above personal disputes"?


It doesn't. I didn't read your third option before posting my message. Anyways, since we are nitpicking, I think I should point out that it's not clear whether you listed two options or three options. The "is this ... or is this" construct suggests that you listed two options, but you started your comment with "is this the dumbest rule ever" which I considered to be the real "first" option. When I said "neither" it applied to the "dumbest rule ever" option and the second option which was the "hypocritical rule" option. I can't believe I'm being so anal about this...

I'm surprised that you responded to the "neither" comment. May be you also have a small ego like I do. Beware, for I am a Maori and I shall rub my nose against yours next time we play.
1.20.2008 12:54pm
Dennis Monokroussos:
Hi Russian Gambit:

The point about hypocrisy was a suggested explanation of why it's a dumb rule.

As for the Maori custom, it's fascinating...but I'd prefer the Japanese tradition of a slight bow (even to handshakes - especially given many people's questionable hygiene).
1.20.2008 1:14pm
esti:
I remember when Shirov and Kasparov were having their dispute (to put it mildly) and they were going to meet on the board. Every website made a huge deal about the handshake, going on and on about who, if any, would start the handshake, and of course if the other would accept it. At the end, I don't even remember who started it, but they shook hands (to the disappointment of the media?). Of course, when it came time to call it a draw, Kasparov did not say a single word, he just signed his score sheet and handed it to Shirov, who duly reciprocated. THe rule, as I see it, aims to withdraw the attention media (and players) allocate to menial things, allowing everyone to concentrate in what is really important: the chess game.

On the other hand, it does not even grant a handshake or any other greeting, since a player may not be forced to deny the handshake if the other one does not offer it, right?

Esteban
1.20.2008 1:20pm
Russian Gambit (mail):

The point about hypocrisy was a suggested explanation of why it's a dumb rule.


Yes. And a "neither" response is grammatically and semantically appropriate for the question "Is this the dumbest rule ever, an attempt to mandate hypocritical acts of respect for even the most vile opponent?" The "neither" response is appropriate because I don't think the rule is dumb and neither do I think a rule is dumb just because it is "hypocritical."
1.20.2008 1:27pm
esti:
I guess this is interesting (and plagiarized from http://chessdom.com, please delete the comment if it is illegal to do so):

18:00 Kramnik, through his manager, has decided to resign from the appeals committee. Adams, as from the same country as Short, resigns as well. They will be replaced by L'Ami and Krasenkow.


20:15 The game will for sure not continue today, as the decision of the appeals committee is still not available. However, Nigel has been seen storming out of the room, saying "They want me to play tomorrow! No way I am playing tomorrow!"
1.20.2008 1:29pm
JaiDeepBlue (mail):
Old timers can point to Korchnoi-Karpov Bagiuo city when this "handshake" gambit first came into the world. at that time, Korchnoi flew into a rage and played a highly unsound line and lost. (btw was this the g6 line in the ruy lopez open that was featured earlier on this site?!)
1.20.2008 1:32pm
Dennis Monokroussos:
RG: It may be gramatically and semantically legal, but it's a little odd. :) Compare: "Is Mary Bill's sibling, his sister?" "Neither." Anyway, I didn't care about that, I just didn't understand why you seemed to reject my second (or third, as you seem to be reading it) option when it was almost exactly what you said. The answer is that you simply overlooked it. Accidents happen...can we please drop this, since there's no dispute of substance?

Esti: Thanks for the comment. Kramnik and Adams did the right thing; Short, maybe not. Even if Cheparinov is a scurrilous scoundrel for his behavior, Short isn't exactly taking the high road. Then again, there's something pleasant about seeing Team Danailov lose a forfeit point for bad behavior. It's a nice reversal from Toiletgate.
1.20.2008 1:42pm
Dennis Monokroussos:
JDB: Yes - though as we saw, it may not have been unsound after all. And boy, was that match ever a hate-fest. Come to think of it, Karpov didn't have a single world championship match - or attempted match - without some controversy or other.

This thread is fun, but I'll never finish on the games if this keeps up! :)
1.20.2008 1:46pm
Russian Gambit (mail):
Dennis: OK. I'm dropping this even though I don't agree with your last comment about "neither" being odd.

Now please finish on the games. I promise to do my part of the bargain by making sure this the last post from me on this thread. :-)
1.20.2008 1:57pm
esti:
We are all scratching the surface of the real issue: Off-the-board manipulation/pressure does affect the outcome of games. It is quite unsportsmanlike of the Danailov team to have used the absurd (in my humble opinion) allegation about cheating from the Kramnik side. It is, I assume, also a working of Danailov that Cheparinov refused to shake hands with Short. And although I believe that Short is exaggerating when he says that he had "lost equanimity" and thus he could not play, and that he had been already offended by having his handshake been refused twice, I still think he should've played after the arbiter forced his opponent to shake hands. Still, Dennis has a point saying that there is some sort of beautiful symmetry in Danailov's team losing a point. In Spanish we say: "QUien a hierro mata, a hierro muere", which roughly translates to "Whomever kills with iron, dies by iron." I am sure there is a similar English adage.

Obviously there is a lot of work FIDE is going to do on this before issuing a new rule. Whatever they do, I sure hope the off-the-board humbuggery will stop. I doubt it.
1.20.2008 2:01pm
Dennis Monokroussos:
"He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword" is the English equivalent. Good comment, Esti.
1.20.2008 2:28pm
JaiDeepBlue (mail):
More useless trivia - In the audience for the Karpov-Korchnoi Bagiou match was an 8 year old boy whose father was a consultant with the Phillipines government on railways - Vishy! Yes, the young Vishy spent his formative years in Manila, then the chess capital of Asia.
1.20.2008 2:28pm
Dennis Monokroussos:
Let's keep on topic, please.
1.20.2008 2:45pm
visitor:
Dumb rule that's creating more fuss than it's trying to avoid.
Chess arbiters should enforce the rules of chess, not social etiquette.
1.20.2008 9:39pm
Peter F Winkler III (mail) (www):
A rule is a rule: No matter how "silly" it is
1.21.2008 4:25pm